Letters to the Editor

The following is in response to Bob Veres’ article, The Profession's Faulty Assumptions: A Top Ten List, which appeared last week:


Dear Editor,

Thanks to Bob Veres for his perspicacious comments that reflect my experience.  As a practitioner, teacher and author, I routinely express the same concern with the use of assumptions.  One of my favorite quotes is from an advisor who said: “The Roth IRA conversion is a no-brainer.”  My response was that he obviously hadn’t used his brain to consider all the variables involved in the analysis.

Jim Knaus
Global Wealth Advisors LLC
Troy, MI


Dear Editor,

Mr. Veres  discusses a tax-aware strategy for withdrawing from an IRA.  It is unclear to me how this is accomplished.  For example, if a person needs $90,000 per year to live on and assuming all IRA distributions are pre-tax, then the overall tax rate is what matters, not an artificial “ the first 15% comes from the IRA, etc.”  That is money is fungible and I don’t get how you lower the effective tax rate. 

Can you help clarify this?

Thanks,

Steve Gelfand
Merrill Lynch
San Francisco, CA


Bob Veres responds:

I may not have been as clear as I might have been in the explanation.  The point, though, is that instead of living on the taxable portfolio before the IRA distributions become mandatory, the client takes preliminary IRA distributions (even though he doesn't have to) to fill up the first few tax brackets.  The rest of his income will come from the taxable portfolio, which has already been taxed.

Otherwise, if he takes all of that $90,000 out of the taxable portfolio, you end up wasting those lower brackets.  Meanwhile, you build up the IRA to the point where the mandatory distributions are taxed at higher marginal rates.  The overall effect is to get money out of the IRA at something well below the highest marginal rate – before the mandatory distributions kick in – and then the mandatory distributions are lower, the taxable portfolio still has something left, and those future tax rates are controlled as well.

Bill Reichenstein explains all this much more elegantly than I do.  He has the great advantage of knowing all of this intimately.  But I think these issues are central to adding value for clients who are in retirement.